Why are all the gamehouse trials ad supported?

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Well here is a quote from Tom about the ads.

Tom: Yes, Michelle. Due to the recent update on GameHouse we have added this to our free trial games. If you like to play the games without ads then you have to purchase or play using fun pass membership.

That was from the other day. I closed the chat and he sent me an e-mail about it and the chat conversation.

Fight fire with fire is a Metallica song. That is where I got this name from.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 02:36:15 PDT 2011

Well Michelle, I guess thats what you get for being a habitual returner of games on different sites, you messed up the economy with your constant returning of games, and now karma has come back to haunt you in the form of ad sponsored games. Nothing is ever perfect for you, is it Michelle?

Posted on Thu Mar 24 07:41:36 PDT 2011

IMO< I am always bewildered when people gripe about free things. this entitlement mentality is denigrating society. If it is free say ty and move on. Again this is just MY opinion.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 11:50:55 PDT 2011

Hello again, everyone...

Please...let's keep this a friendly discussion. I would really like to understand which specific games our customers are playing where the free trial versions include advertising. And I need to clarify a point about the advertising initiative I wrote about yesterday. That project continues so those couple dozen or so 60 and 90-minute trial versions I wrote about will still have the ads in them.

Now I believe that 'ffwfire' touched on an important point that helps me a lot: "It even tells you for all games 'This FREE trial is supported by ads.' "

We're aware of an issue that causes that message to be displayed for any game when, in fact, that game's free trial does NOT have ads in it. The issue can arise if a person views the game detail page for one of the Free Games (those that are full versions offering unlimited trial time supported by ads) and then views the page for another, regularly priced standard or Premium Edition title that does not have ads in its free trial version. For some reason a browser setting is being made that will 'stick' (for lack of proper technical terminology) and indicate that the regularly priced game's free trial is supported by ads. I reproduced the issue on my own PC yesterday:

I had viewed the game page for one of our Free Games, where the game page has a button labeled "Unlimited Free Trial" and the phrase "Play free now, courtesy of sponsors." I then navigated my browser to the home page, where I clicked on the new game Matches & Matrimony - A Pride and Prejudice Tale. The page that was displayed included the button to play the free trial with the additional phrases that 'ffwfire' reported: "This FREE trial is supported by ads. FunPass members: Play ad-free." That is incorrect for this game; this game's free trial is not ad supported.

So I cleared my browser's cache and history and revisited the game page for Matches & Matrimony - A Pride and Prejudice Tale, where I saw the correct "Play Now" button and the correct phrases "Play free trial now. FunPass Members: Download to play."

I know this is a lot of detail and I appreciate everyone's careful attention to it. Our Web team is aware of this issue and they are working on a permanent fix for it. I'll bring this to their attention once again and will keep you posted here as to progress. Meanwhile feel free to tell me - either within this thread or privately via ForumAdmins@gamehouse.com - which game(s) you're playing that have ads in the free trial versions.

Thank you very much!

Bill

Posted on Thu Mar 24 12:24:46 PDT 2011

I was playing the trial version of Jessica's Cupcake Cafe and that gave me ads and another one I can't think of the name. Thank you.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 21:52:42 PDT 2011

Thanks again, Bill for taking the time to explain something that some are easily confused by. But let me also point out that it's NOT GH that's making it confusing, it's your OWN COMPUTER and the way it hangs onto cookies. I've never seen a sight go out of its way to maintain honesty and integrity in the way they offer their games as GH does, thanks to people like Bill.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 21:54:13 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Thanks again, Bill for taking the time to explain something that some are easily confused by. But let me also point out that it's NOT GH that's making it confusing, it's your OWN COMPUTER and the way it hangs onto cookies. I've never seen a sight go out of its way to maintain honesty and integrity in the way they offer their games as GH does, thanks to people like Bill.

My computer is a bad computer. We have to wait till at least May to get a new one.

Bill was right that took care of that problem.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 21:57:37 PDT 2011

Hi, ff... your computer's probably fine... it's just a matter of remembering to clear your browser's cache and history, or telling it not to store things. But that one act alone can clear up so many problems, it seems. (or rebooting, when it comes to other problems)

Posted on Thu Mar 24 22:47:24 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Hi, ff... your computer's probably fine... it's just a matter of remembering to clear your browser's cache and history, or telling it not to store things. But that one act alone can clear up so many problems, it seems. (or rebooting, when it comes to other problems)

We have a problem starting this computer up sometimes. Sometimes the Windows screen comes up starting it and just stops and sometimes it works and Windows will load and sometimes it won't. There are some serious problems with this computer (hardware related) and we have no choice but to get a new one. Hopefully this will last us till then.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 23:00:16 PDT 2011

Good luck with that, ff... I had that happening to mine awhile back (it would get stuck in "sleep" or whatever mode and I couldn't get it out...) turned out I needed a new graphics card and now it works great. But if yours is really old, then guess it's time for a new one, and I surely hope yours will last until you can get a new one. Try not to shut it off... that's what I had to do with mine so it wouldn't get stuck in that mode. Just turn your monitor off but let the computer run. Won't do it any harm, and may save you some headaches in the meantime.

Posted on Thu Mar 24 23:49:18 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Good luck with that, ff... I had that happening to mine awhile back (it would get stuck in "sleep" or whatever mode and I couldn't get it out...) turned out I needed a new graphics card and now it works great. But if yours is really old, then guess it's time for a new one, and I surely hope yours will last until you can get a new one. Try not to shut it off... that's what I had to do with mine so it wouldn't get stuck in that mode. Just turn your monitor off but let the computer run. Won't do it any harm, and may save you some headaches in the meantime.

It's a little over 2 and a half years. It's an HP. It is just a bad computer.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 00:13:26 PDT 2011

yusef wrote:

ducatisti wrote: I agree, no other LEGITIMATE game site does this. Not a smart move Gamehouse!

What is a legitimate game site? Do illegitimate game sites do this? Just wondering. Thanks.

There are many download mirror sites around the internet that offer popular games at cheaper prices, but once you look closely at the TOS, you'll see that by purchasing from them you're selling your email address to their "subsidiaries".

As far as my use of the word "legitimate", I used it in the context correctly. I consider an illegitimate site as one which promises one thing, then delivers another (or something "extra" you're not expecting).

I don't participate in the GH forums because I feel they are poorly designed and implemented, and that typically the users who do participate here don't match the quality of other game site forums. Personal attacks are prevalent here, and that is never constructive.

As a Fun Pass member, when I download a game, I am presented with two "ads", first one is the video ad which starts automatically on the download page. Second is the new "extra" software that is offered and I have to DE-SELECT before continuing my download.

I would understand if GH utilized this format for non-paying members, but it chafes to deal with this when I'm already paying the company a decent chunk of change every month.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 09:16:15 PDT 2011

"As far as my use of the word "legitimate", I used it in the context correctly."

I disagree, ducatisi, since the last time I checked, "illegitimate" still means "illegal" or "not upheld by the law." Not a good description of a game site you're simply personally unhappy with because of a box to uncheck... I do see this on most sites now and it doesn't upset me to move my mouse and uncheck it. In fact, it's part of the offerings in most retail sites and stores. Fries with that? Do you need stamps today? Just say "no."

"I don't participate in the GH forums because I feel they are poorly designed and implemented, and that typically the users who do participate here don't match the quality of other game site forums."

Nice to know there's people out there with such high self esteem! Thanks for lowering yourself momentarily to voice your opinions here, and glad that GH seems to be your site of choice out of all the others.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 12:45:57 PDT 2011

Illegitimate has many definitions, yours is one, others include; A child born out of wedlock (obviously not what I'm going for here). Unlawful or illegal (your interpretation). Irregular or not the usual custom, contrary to logic (the meaning I am using).

You ended your quote too soon, and missed this part:
"Personal attacks are prevalent here, and that is never constructive."

I have no idea why you'd want to be argumentative about this, it's silly, and only helps me prove this point.

I am a FunPass Member, and also buy games from another venue, who's forums are easier to navigate, and which I do participate in. I came to the GH forums for the express purpose of voicing my displeasure at their new advertising model, since I received nothing but a canned reply to the email I sent to customer support about it.

I'm hoping the "powers that be" at GH take a closer look at their ad-support setup and decide to at least remove the add-on's they've attached to each download.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 13:34:03 PDT 2011

Yes, I did leave that last sentence out... as it seemed that your remark before it proved that that's just what you've been doing since you've lowered your standards to post here, and that's your intimation, not mine. If you enjoy posting insensitive things such as remarking on the "quality of people" here, how do you expect people to be civil to you, though I have been trying. My remarks weren't meant to be argumentative, only making my own point. And nowhere have I seen the word "illegitimate" mean "contrary to logic," and even so, would that really fit here for this? I was just questioning your misleading use of the word, not trying to start anything. Are you? Regardless, I do hope GH listens and readjusts things to meet your approval, and I wish you happy gaming!

Posted on Fri Mar 25 15:54:45 PDT 2011

x2wolverine wrote: Well Michelle, I guess thats what you get for being a habitual returner of games on different sites, you messed up the economy with your constant returning of games, and now karma has come back to haunt you in the form of ad sponsored games. Nothing is ever perfect for you, is it Michelle?

lol, no just like my health. It is one thing after another.

Can't we all get along? I am being serious.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 17:04:42 PDT 2011

@ducasti, welcome to the other side of the tracks. FYI your sarcastic remarks truely show the caliper of person you are, top notch TT. I am so glad you are unhappy here because thats how we roll. Most of us here are just old acquaintances from other forums so sit right down and grab your keyboard and smack it upside your monitor then you can fit in too.

@ Jason is anything ever perfect? Glass houses.

Posted on Fri Mar 25 18:31:01 PDT 2011

Gee, Russ... you sure do have a knack for making friends, eh? (not that there's any here worthy...) Wonder where all those high-quality people hang out??

Posted on Sun Mar 27 20:42:01 PDT 2011

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Posted on Sun Mar 27 20:42:14 PDT 2011

Re ducatisti's discussion... My 2 cents worth:
(1) Re the ads, true, the extra video ad is somewhat annoying, but unchecking a box pre-download seems not any big effort. Also, some of the SAs offered interest my gamer group & we'd likely not try them over open i-net, but can here, where we know it's safe to test due to GH's legitimacy.
(2) Not sure about getting games cheaper elsewhere, but GH FunPass positions me perfectly to play all the games I want on a rental type of basis--can't get cheaper than that, really.
(3) True, forums here could be better organized, yet re personal attacks, besides I haven't found that much here, IMHO it goes on everywhere anyway. GH's huge strength is Game Reviews format: users can access reviews easily, all in one place & they've been proofread by GH staff. Other sites typically force users to wade through many useless comments to find 2 or 3 actual game reviews, a tiresome & time consuming process.
Thanks for initiating the discussion!

Posted on Mon Mar 28 03:55:06 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Gee, Russ... you sure do have a knack for making friends, eh? (not that there's any here worthy...) Wonder where all those high-quality people hang out??

Friends? Here? In this environment? Your too funny.

Posted on Mon Mar 28 07:01:25 PDT 2011

@Russ... I didn't mean that as in "good neighbor," pal... but maybe you are missing something.

Thanks for your insight, Janie... always constructive and always right on.

Posted on Mon Mar 28 11:58:36 PDT 2011

IndyRuss wrote: FYI your sarcastic remarks truely show the caliper of person you are, top notch TT.

Not that I want to continue this, but gosh that's a very funny malaprop! Caliper? Really? A caliper could be used to measure the CALIBER of a bullet, which is the word I think you were "aiming" at.

TT? Test Track, Tourist Trophy? Totem Tribe? Texas Tech?

Janie, I agree, I love the review options here, much better than the "fishy" selections elsewhere.

Posted on Mon Mar 28 15:06:32 PDT 2011

Lol! Maybe Take That, Trailer Trash, Table Tennis... TaTa?

Posted on Mon Mar 28 16:15:07 PDT 2011

Well, since it seems I started this mess by wondering about legitimate vs illegitimate game sites, I did some further investigation into the way one of the posters used the word legitimate. It appears to be just fine to use if one is using it idiosyncratically, like the poster was using it to mean her own perception of something that wouldn't necessarily apply to others. And she's entitled to her opinion (even about us lowlifes), so she wins on that word as long as she is speaking for herself (or himself, whatever). That's what I get about that word, anyway.

And I'm sure Indyruss has his reasons for his word choice, so everybody ought to be happy now, or unhappy, as the case may be. Me, I'm going to put my English language to bed for the night and play some games.
TTFN

Posted on Mon Mar 28 19:32:45 PDT 2011

Lol, yusef... you didn't start a mess, you actually started some feedback, and whatever way you look at it, it's welcome on a forum. And if someone uses a word idiosyncratically they should certainly expect to have it questioned by those who don't usually think idiosyncratically, especially when it comes to something as cut and dried as legal and illegal and black and white. So please don't feel the least bit responsible for someone's idiosyncrasies and the questioning thereof. Me? I'm totally happy, and you should be also. So sleep tight and don't let the bedbugs bite! Now did I really mean that??? no... Happy Gaming!

Posted on Mon Mar 28 21:37:43 PDT 2011

I left the pond a long time ago, never to return, mainly due to their becoming so restrictive in the chat area and applying obvious double standards as to who is posting there. Having said that, the pond has always been and is still now the paragon when it comes to marketing the games it offers. One never sees ads of any type there other than promos of their own products. On GH's homepage today, there are 4 ads promoting other products. xfinity and Tron to name 2. I know that when the free game of the day starts downloading should one elect to add it, there is an ad popping up at the very beginning of the download. It can be closed as soon as the download begins its run. Other than that, I have no problem with the ads during game play but I wish GH would change the name from " free game of the day" as it is not truly free. Perhaps ad sponsored game of the day is more apt.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 04:21:26 PDT 2011

continuation due to Gh's maddening 1000 character limit.......

Ducasti,

As to the sniping, sure it happens here but very infrequently. I got into it with Russ a couple of weeks ago and typed a few things I'm not entirely proud of. ( hope he feels the same way ).You see Ducasti, no one is perfect except my wife. Feathers do occasionally get ruffled and people sometimes overreact. But if you feel the lounge is such a bad place to be Ducasti, remember that doors swing both ways.

Have a good day Russ !!

Posted on Tue Mar 29 04:30:34 PDT 2011

yusef wrote: It appears to be just fine to use if one is using it idiosyncratically, like the poster was using it...

I used the word in the same manner as it is used in MANY published articles, both online and in print. Here are a few quotes:
"Don't assume that only illegitimate games are the target of malware authors. Legitimate gaming portals, like World of Warcraft, are plum targets..."
"Cheat websites that are a prominent part of the game culture and industry have been debated because of their illegitimate nature... "

These are not using the word to denote lack of legality, but as a term meaning "irregular", or "not complying with accepted standards". The term does mean illegal in many contexts, but not this time. Just as it doesn't mean "a child born out of wedlock" every single time it is used.

Your inability to drop the subject, and your unwavering adherence to your own version of the truth in the face of insurmountable evidence to the contrary is just creepy.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 14:42:33 PDT 2011

CREEPY.
1. Of or producing a sensation of uneasiness or fear, as of things crawling on one's skin: a creepy feeling; a creepy story.
2. Annoyingly unpleasant; repulsive.
Thesaurus:
Adj. 1. creepy - annoying and unpleasant;
offensive - unpleasant or disgusting especially to the senses; "offensive odors"
2. creepy - causing a sensation as of things crawling on your skin;
alarming - frightening because of an awareness of danger

Honestly, ducatesti... you're quite the drama queen, aren't you. So much for high-quality posting. Yusef was actually upholding your remark!

Posted on Tue Mar 29 21:18:42 PDT 2011

ducatisti wrote:

yusef wrote: It appears to be just fine to use if one is using it idiosyncratically, like the poster was using it...

. . .
Your inability to drop the subject, and your unwavering adherence to your own version of the truth in the face of insurmountable evidence to the contrary is just creepy.

Don't worry. No offense taken.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 21:23:11 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Honestly, ducatesti... you're quite the drama queen, aren't you.

Queen? Sorry, I don't resemble that remark. It's Ducatisti - as in Ducati rider. Ducati is an Italian motorcycle. I'm a technical writer for the motorsports industry, and pretty certain the last word anyone would use to describe me is Queen. Nerd, yes. Queen, no.

Back to the topic at hand, I still haven't heard from Customer Service in response to my question about their new download format. I've only had a few other experiences with GH customer service, which was slow but still responded within 48 hours. 3 working days seems a bit long to me. Did the original poster receive a response to their inquiry?

Posted on Tue Mar 29 22:02:07 PDT 2011

ducatisti wrote:

yusef wrote: It appears to be just fine to use if one is using it idiosyncratically, like the poster was using it...

I used the word in the same manner as it is used in MANY published articles, both online and in print. Here are a few quotes:
"Don't assume that only illegitimate games are the target of malware authors. Legitimate gaming portals, like World of Warcraft, are plum targets..."
"Cheat websites that are a prominent part of the game culture and industry have been debated because of their illegitimate nature... "

. . .
Your inability to drop the subject, and your unwavering adherence to your own version of the truth in the face of insurmountable evidence to the contrary is just creepy.

Sorry, my interest in English language made me look.
First quote source: ACM Digital Library
Second quote source: Spywareblockers.org

Posted on Tue Mar 29 22:53:32 PDT 2011

Honestly, I don't know one motorcycle from another, (but thanks for the definition) and my reference to queen was in drama, as in quote "a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions." But we each have our own interests... mine is in weaving, as in tapestries. But I do think Bill gave a perfectly acceptable answer above, in that the ads were part of a trial that is being discontinued, though some of the games still do have them.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 23:16:13 PDT 2011

Now I'm looking into American English to see if the word fits there except in the manner I already explained. Apparently not. Those examples are silly. The sources aren't credible. Only thing I can figure is it's becoming a buzz word in the gaming industry but hasn't made it into standard international or American English yet. As far as I can tell the poster is using it to portray personal perception (nothing wrong with that; where she gets her games is her business) because it doesn't work in any other context, or she's using it like some kind of lingo. Nothing wrong with that either. I love delving into word usage, but this probably isn't the place for it, at least not for formal language. It's been an interesting topic, though.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 23:19:23 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Honestly, I don't know one motorcycle from another, (but thanks for the definition) and my reference to queen was in drama, as in quote "a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions." But we each have our own interests... mine is in weaving, as in tapestries. But I do think Bill gave a perfectly acceptable answer above, in that the ads were part of a trial that is being discontinued, though some of the games still do have them.

Even I know what a "drama queen" is. Ah, well. I learned plenty about word usage on a game forum. I suppose I could go back to the roots of the word--legitimate, not drama queen--but I won't. Time for bed.

Posted on Tue Mar 29 23:24:41 PDT 2011

Oh, in case I haven't said, I don't know about the trial ads because I sign into funpass and don't use the trials. Maybe I posted that already but my old eyes are too tired to read through this thread again to see if I have. Good night ~~

Posted on Tue Mar 29 23:29:07 PDT 2011

Good night, yusef! I'd say you've had quite an American English lesson for today... though I agree nothing stated here about the "other" meanings for legitimate is really legitimate for this conversation, no? Lol!

Posted on Wed Mar 30 01:40:06 PDT 2011

It sure is great fun when someone's OP degenerates into namecalling and general PITAness
if I may coin a term. Keeps the blood flowing, I love it.......just so long as it doesn't infiltrate most of the posts that are started.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 04:13:09 PDT 2011

Poppa wrote: It sure is great fun when someone's OP degenerates into namecalling and general PITAness
if I may coin a term. Keeps the blood flowing, I love it.......just so long as it doesn't infiltrate most of the posts that are started.

Oh, my. I won't even start to try to figure out what PITAness is. I hope I didn't call anyone names. Off to work. TTFN.

Poppa, you mean other threads? Because I think the posts on this have if nothing else gone off topic, but then Beal answered the question long ago, so I suppose no harm done, and it's been a good learning experience, at least for me.

TTNF for real this time.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 07:14:15 PDT 2011

Duc you remind me of someone who used to post this same rhetoric.

Like a zombie you can kill them off but their never dead.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 08:06:15 PDT 2011

yusef wrote:

Poppa wrote: It sure is great fun when someone's OP degenerates into namecalling and general PITAness
if I may coin a term. Keeps the blood flowing, I love it.......just so long as it doesn't infiltrate most of the posts that are started.

Oh, my. I won't even start to try to figure out what PITAness is. I hope I didn't call anyone names. Off to work. TTFN.

Poppa, you mean other threads? Because I think the posts on this have if nothing else gone off topic, but then Beal answered the question long ago, so I suppose no harm done, and it's been a good learning experience, at least for me.

TTNF for real this time.

Pita stands for pain in the ass. I was trying to be genteel.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 09:18:53 PDT 2011

We probably all know that, poppa, but now yusef's English lesson for today is complete. Do you really think this thread degenerated into namecalling??? I thought we were just trying to figure out if the use of a certain word was correct. Nothing wrong with disagreeing on it... keeps the blood flowing, as you said.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 13:26:52 PDT 2011

Poppa wrote:

yusef wrote:

Poppa wrote: It sure is great fun when someone's OP degenerates into namecalling and general PITAness
if I may coin a term. Keeps the blood flowing, I love it.......just so long as it doesn't infiltrate most of the posts that are started.

Oh, my. I won't even start to try to figure out what PITAness is. I hope I didn't call anyone names. Off to work. TTFN.

Poppa, you mean other threads? Because I think the posts on this have if nothing else gone off topic, but then Beal answered the question long ago, so I suppose no harm done, and it's been a good learning experience, at least for me.

TTNF for real this time.

Pita stands for pain in the ass. I was trying to be genteel.

OK, thanks, Poppa. Now that you spell it out, it seems obvious. Sort of like "hind" sight.

Posted on Wed Mar 30 16:27:08 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Do you really think this thread degenerated into namecalling???

Absoulutely do agree with poppa on this one ... and one wonders why I remain a lurker extraordinaire AND that there's infrequent activity on this messageboard?




readerina

Posted on Thu Mar 31 06:38:32 PDT 2011

mahjongrox wrote:

mooma wrote: Do you really think this thread degenerated into namecalling???

Absoulutely do agree with poppa on this one ... and one wonders why I remain a lurker extraordinaire AND that there's infrequent activity on this messageboard?




readerina

who wonders???

Posted on Thu Mar 31 08:37:10 PDT 2011

Hey Rox! Now I know where you've been but how have you been? (other than quiet, lol)

Posted on Thu Mar 31 08:59:51 PDT 2011

IndyRuss wrote:

mahjongrox wrote:

mooma wrote: Do you really think this thread degenerated into namecalling???

Absoulutely do agree with poppa on this one ... and one wonders why I remain a lurker extraordinaire AND that there's infrequent activity on this messageboard?




readerina

who wonders???

not anyone specific but generally anyone who comments on how quiet this message board is at times and anyone who tries to generate conversation and chat.



roxapalooza

Posted on Thu Mar 31 10:54:23 PDT 2011

mooma wrote: Hey Rox! Now I know where you've been but how have you been? (other than quiet, lol)

Hey there! ... Am well, been well and will (hopefully)continue to be well! Continue to enjoy playing all sorts of computer games and am working my through a whole bunch of backlog of games that I gathered up a few months ago in a mega-sale on another game site. I only play the ad-sponsored games from here since it's still hit-and-miss whether a given Gamehouse game will work on any of these computers I have here at home.

Super great on pocketbook budgets!

Other than that, life goes on ... and on ... and on ... and on. Waiting on yet another nor'easter to come on through tonight on into tomorrow from the winter that never ends up here in the northeast!!! Yippee.




Roxarina

Posted on Thu Mar 31 11:06:08 PDT 2011

Ah, the ol' backlog. Kinda warms the night like a fire does, eh? Using up the old firewood... not having to purchase more lately... and having a darned good time in the glow of the copper pennies spent in days of gone by...

We were actually having Spring here, when ol' man Winter took another mighty breath and spewed cold wet rain and clouds our way... and I mean below freezing, so we actually had a nice end-of-March snow out here. We and the cats are waiting to GO OUTSIDE ALREADY!! Lol. And bask in that sun, and plant some flowers, and... another nor'easter heading your way? For some reason I thought you were a nor-westerner... then again maybe my memory is all wrong. But rock on!

Posted on Thu Mar 31 20:42:17 PDT 2011